Topic: Rider down discussions

[suzukinduced]

Rider and passenger down last night: http://www.ottawacitizen.com/news/died+front+cycle+crash+witness+says/3036045/story.html

I wondered what the hell all the sirens on carling were about last night. Now I know  .

RIP to the cyclist and to both rider and passenger, a speedy recovery.

[Slemay08]

Rider and passenger down last night: http://www.ottawacitizen.com/news/died+front+cycle+crash+witness+says/3036045/story.html

I wondered what the hell all the sirens on carling were about last night. Now I know  .

RIP to the cyclist and to both rider and passenger

I hate hearing these things. I have no sympathy for the driver.

[405hp]

Rider and passenger down last night: http://www.ottawacitizen.com/news/died+front+cycle+crash+witness+says/3036045/story.html

I wondered what the hell all the sirens on carling were about last night. Now I know  .

RIP to the cyclist and to both rider and passenger

The rider and passenger haven't passed on however... the rider is in critical condition, and the passenger stable.


Either way, this is a horrible situation which should have and could have been avoided.  It's one thing to go out of town and mess around on country roads, it's another to do it in the middle of a densely populated city.

[Hayabuser]

I hate hearing these things. I have no sympathy for the driver.

No driver involved this time. Just some jackass on a pedal bike doing "tricks" after dark on a busy road. 

Of course there was a witness to comment on the motorcyclists excessive speed.  Bikes can appear to be moving quick due to their diminutive size even at legal speeds.

[Hayabuser]

RIP to the kid on the bike. As a father, I can't imagine what the parents are going through.

I have my own report. I went down yesterday on the Island Park Bridge. I was leading a group from work, keeping pace with traffic at 2 seconds behind the car in front of me. I glanced down at my mirrors to check on the guys, and a car, three cars ahead of me jammed on his brakes so he could turn down onto Bate Island. The cars in front of me jammed on their brakes and went in different directions. I looked up just in time to jam on my brakes, but the bike went down and slid under the car in front of me. My friends said it looked like I tried to maneuver, but my rear locked up. Another few inches and I might have made it. Bruised ribs, sprained finger and a little rash (from the inside of my jacket). I think the bike is a write-off.

Sorry to hear that Johnny! I'll give you a good price on my GSX-R750 when you're ready. Take care! 

[gixxergirl]

RIP to the kid on the bike. As a father, I can't imagine what the parents are going through.

I have my own report. I went down yesterday on the Island Park Bridge. I was leading a group from work, keeping pace with traffic at 2 seconds behind the car in front of me. I glanced down at my mirrors to check on the guys, and a car, three cars ahead of me jammed on his brakes so he could turn down onto Bate Island. The cars in front of me jammed on their brakes and went in different directions. I looked up just in time to jam on my brakes, but the bike went down and slid under the car in front of me. My friends said it looked like I tried to maneuver, but my rear locked up. Another few inches and I might have made it. Bruised ribs, sprained finger and a little rash (from the inside of my jacket). I think the bike is a write-off.

Sorry to hear man! Heal fast 

[CuriousG]

That sucks man! Hope you heal up fast.

That is a nasty spot, traffic is just up to speed at that point and there is little or no turning lane so cars tend to brake hard at the last minute.

[Slemay08]

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[uberchuckie]

Sorry to hear Johnny.  Time to look for deals!

[johnboy]

Sorry to hear , Glad ur ok 

[johnboy]

RIP to the kid on the bike. As a father, I can't imagine what the parents are going through.

I have my own report. I went down yesterday on the Island Park Bridge. I was leading a group from work, keeping pace with traffic at 2 seconds behind the car in front of me. I glanced down at my mirrors to check on the guys, and a car, three cars ahead of me jammed on his brakes so he could turn down onto Bate Island. The cars in front of me jammed on their brakes and went in different directions. I looked up just in time to jam on my brakes, but the bike went down and slid under the car in front of me. My friends said it looked like I tried to maneuver, but my rear locked up. Another few inches and I might have made it. Bruised ribs, sprained finger and a little rash (from the inside of my jacket). I think the bike is a write-off.

Sorry to hear that Johnny! I'll give you a good price on my GSX-R750 when you're ready. Take care! 

What Dave u only just got it!!

[Maverick]

Sorry to hear about your spill Johnny; glad you are OK.

[Hayabuser]

What Dave u only just got it!!

I just love Gixxer_Johnny that much! 

[suffocated]

RIP to the kid on the bike. As a father, I can't imagine what the parents are going through.

I have my own report. I went down yesterday on the Island Park Bridge. I was leading a group from work, keeping pace with traffic at 2 seconds behind the car in front of me. I glanced down at my mirrors to check on the guys, and a car, three cars ahead of me jammed on his brakes so he could turn down onto Bate Island. The cars in front of me jammed on their brakes and went in different directions. I looked up just in time to jam on my brakes, but the bike went down and slid under the car in front of me. My friends said it looked like I tried to maneuver, but my rear locked up. Another few inches and I might have made it. Bruised ribs, sprained finger and a little rash (from the inside of my jacket). I think the bike is a write-off.

$hnit Johnny! Sorry to hear that!
Hope you have a speedy recovery! And that you get back on the road soon..

[Ninja Johnny]

Thanks everyone.
The pics from that accident involving the kid are just awful.
I assumed it was a cruiser, not a sportbike.

[Cos]

Rider and passenger down last night: http://www.ottawacitizen.com/news/died+front+cycle+crash+witness+says/3036045/story.html

that's sad, especially so for the cyclist (RIP)...

I have my own report. I went down yesterday on the Island Park Bridge.

Sorry to hear about that Johnny... at least you're only bruised... Time to upgrade to a Versys now 

[smokey]

Injured motorcyclist in the Carling collision last night has been downgraded to STABLE and has been identified as 26 yr old Kyle Ferguson - from CBC 2:30 news

(The name changed from the 2:30 report to the 3:30 report. At 2:30 they said Davis - media never gets it right.)

I am sorry to hear about this, but I see the papers have focused on the speed of the motorcycle as have the Police, nothing of course on the apparent fact the kid on the bicycle was doing tricks while crossing the road, late at night. Should be interesting to see how this develops. RIP to the kid on the bike and I hope the rider and passenger make it without any permanent scars, at least the physical kind.

[schuitz]

I hate hearing these things. I have no sympathy for the driver.

No driver involved this time. Just some jackass on a pedal bike doing "tricks" after dark on a busy road. 

Of course there was a witness to comment on the motorcyclists excessive speed.  Bikes can appear to be moving quick due to their diminutive size even at legal speeds.

Facts through the media are waffer-thin, and the motorcycle news phrasebook is in full effect.  It is impossible to infer the truth of this accident from either the Citizen or the CBC news stories.  The Ottawa Sun is actually not vindictive: http://www.ottawasun.com/news/ottawa/2010/05/16/13969816.html. 

But surely there is not enough information here to pass judgement.  We will have to wait for more to come out.  A terrible accident in any case.

Sorry to hear about your crash Johnny.    I went on red alert for a surprise slowdown in that exact spot last night about 7:45pm.

[405hp]

Ok, I'll be the first to say it.  I find it hypocritical to give so much benefit of doubt to the rider.


Perhaps it's because he's a rider, just like all of us here. Truth is that every time I go out for a ride, I go fast enough to lose my license on several occasions and I will stretch as far as saying that the vast majority of sport bike riders do the exact same - if not much worse.


The difference is that those of us with a few extra IQ points pick our places by going out of town to mess around "safely" and travel slow enough in the city to allow for braking or evasive maneuvers should something absurd happen, such as... say, oh... a kid doing bicycle tricks in the middle of the road.


What's the posted speed limit on Carling between Woodroffe and the Parkway?  50 or 60 right?  I'm sorry but had he been going the speed limit and paying attention, this accident could easily have been avoided.


Sorry if I offend anyone with this post; it's just the way I see things.

[karl_1052]

Ok, I'll be the first to say it.  I find it hypocritical to give so much benefit of doubt to the rider.


Perhaps it's because he's a rider, just like all of us here. Truth is that every time I go out for a ride, I go fast enough to lose my license on several occasions and I will stretch as far as saying that the vast majority of sport bike riders do the exact same - if not much worse.


The difference is that those of us with a few extra IQ points pick our places by going out of town to mess around "safely" and travel slow enough in the city to allow for braking or evasive maneuvers should something absurd happen, such as... say, oh... a kid doing bicycle tricks in the middle of the road.


What's the posted speed limit on Carling between Woodroffe and the Parkway?  50 or 60 right?  I'm sorry but had he been going the speed limit and paying attention, this accident could easily have been avoided.


Sorry if I offend anyone with this post; it's just the way I see things.

I agree 100%. Sounds like an asshat on a motorcycle, driving too fast for the conditions hit an asshat doing tricks on his bicycle on one of the busiest streets in the city. Sounds like they were both at fault.

[uberchuckie]

The guy on the motorcycle was probably going too fast and just didn't see the guy on the bicycle.  The bicycle had no lights or reflectors... probably almost invisible at night until it's too late.

[Honduh rider]

I got waived at frantically last yesterday by some lady walking her baby carriage on the side of the road... sign said 50, and boy was I surprised to find out I may have been speeding. 56 indicated (probably 53 actual) km/h.... But in her eyes it was excessive.

small size plus small displacement and high revs, = non expert 'witnesses' saying "the guy on the bike was speeding"


RIP the kid.
Fcuk the media.

[Hayabuser]

Ok, I'll be the first to say it.  I find it hypocritical to give so much benefit of doubt to the rider.


Perhaps it's because he's a rider, just like all of us here. Truth is that every time I go out for a ride, I go fast enough to lose my license on several occasions and I will stretch as far as saying that the vast majority of sport bike riders do the exact same - if not much worse.


The difference is that those of us with a few extra IQ points pick our places by going out of town to mess around "safely" and travel slow enough in the city to allow for braking or evasive maneuvers should something absurd happen, such as... say, oh... a kid doing bicycle tricks in the middle of the road.


What's the posted speed limit on Carling between Woodroffe and the Parkway?  50 or 60 right?  I'm sorry but had he been going the speed limit and paying attention, this accident could easily have been avoided.


Sorry if I offend anyone with this post; it's just the way I see things.

I'll play Devil's Advocate and suggest that even if the motorcycle was excessively speeding down Carling, if there was no bicycle doing stupid tricks in the road, there would not have been an accident. I agree that they are probably equally to blame but the motorcycle was just doing what motorized vehicles do, drive down the road. The bicycle was not.

Plus, doubling the speed limit out in the sticks on back-roads is equally as dangerous as doubling the speed limit in town. Six of one, half dozen of the other. You can't justify a group's spirited rides using this argument. Anything could be around that back-road blind corner... a tractor, a deer, a bicyclist, a load of manure... use your imagination instead of just your testosterone. PS: Alex, this isn't directed at you. Just the other side of the debate. 

[suzukinduced]

Ok, I'll be the first to say it.  I find it hypocritical to give so much benefit of doubt to the rider.


Perhaps it's because he's a rider, just like all of us here. Truth is that every time I go out for a ride, I go fast enough to lose my license on several occasions and I will stretch as far as saying that the vast majority of sport bike riders do the exact same - if not much worse.


The difference is that those of us with a few extra IQ points pick our places by going out of town to mess around "safely" and travel slow enough in the city to allow for braking or evasive maneuvers should something absurd happen, such as... say, oh... a kid doing bicycle tricks in the middle of the road.


What's the posted speed limit on Carling between Woodroffe and the Parkway?  50 or 60 right?  I'm sorry but had he been going the speed limit and paying attention, this accident could easily have been avoided.


Sorry if I offend anyone with this post; it's just the way I see things.

I'll play Devil's Advocate and suggest that even if the motorcycle was excessively speeding down Carling, if there was no bicycle doing stupid tricks in the road, there would not have been an accident. I agree that they are probably equally to blame but the motorcycle was just doing what motorized vehicles do, drive down the road. The bicycle was not.

Plus, doubling the speed limit out in the sticks on back-roads is equally as dangerous as doubling the speed limit in town. Six of one, half dozen of the other. You can't justify a group's spirited rides using this argument. Anything could be around that back-road blind corner... a tractor, a deer, a bicyclist, a load of manure... use your imagination instead of just your testosterone. PS: Alex, this isn't directed at you. Just the other side of the debate. 

Nope doing double the speed limit in the back woods may not be the smartest thing, but neither is a certain 1300 sport bike flying up Merivale after leaving a popular hangout, in traffic and then posting about it on facebook after blaming the bike for making the rider 'do bad things'.

Everybody speeds, and everybody falls off their pedestal every once and awhile.

[Hayabuser]

Nope doing double the speed limit in the back woods may not be the smartest thing, but neither is a certain 1300 sport bike flying up Merivale after leaving a popular hangout, in traffic and then posting about it on facebook after blaming the bike for making the rider 'do bad things'.

Everybody speeds, and everybody falls off their pedestal every once and awhile.

Sorry Brad, can't hear you from up on my pedestal. 

To counter, at least I am alone on my bike when I do bad things. I would never risk the life of a passenger, especially one that I loved, by doing bad things two-up.   

[Honduh rider]

speed alone isn't a factor in assigning fault. 

look it up.

everyone's a f****** traffic cop.

[suzukinduced]

speed alone isn't a factor in assigning fault. 

look it up.

everyone's a f****** traffic cop.

welcome to the interwebs. enjoi yur stay.

[Dirty]

Ok, I'll be the first to say it.  I find it hypocritical to give so much benefit of doubt to the rider.


Perhaps it's because he's a rider, just like all of us here. Truth is that every time I go out for a ride, I go fast enough to lose my license on several occasions and I will stretch as far as saying that the vast majority of sport bike riders do the exact same - if not much worse.


The difference is that those of us with a few extra IQ points pick our places by going out of town to mess around "safely" and travel slow enough in the city to allow for braking or evasive maneuvers should something absurd happen, such as... say, oh... a kid doing bicycle tricks in the middle of the road.


What's the posted speed limit on Carling between Woodroffe and the Parkway?  50 or 60 right?  I'm sorry but had he been going the speed limit and paying attention, this accident could easily have been avoided.


Sorry if I offend anyone with this post; it's just the way I see things.

I agree 100%. Sounds like an asshat on a motorcycle, driving too fast for the conditions hit an asshat doing tricks on his bicycle on one of the busiest streets in the city. Sounds like they were both at fault.

Sounds like that sums it up right there.

And IMO speeding in isolated areas isn't nearly as bad because you aren't taking risks with other peoples safety or atleast no where near the same degree. It's all matter of when/where, sure you'll have some blind corners and hidden driveways in the country but you've also got alot of areas where you know no person is around to be consequenced by your shinanigans.

I went zooming down( 260km/h +)  a country road at night and saw a deer bounce off the road and into  the woods just feet in front of my bike. Had I struck it the planet would be minus one deer and one dummy, oh well. No harm, no foul.

[Cos]

Nope doing double the speed limit in the back woods may not be the smartest thing, but neither is a certain 1300 sport bike flying up Merivale after leaving a popular hangout, in traffic and then posting about it on facebook after blaming the bike for making the rider 'do bad things'.

Everybody speeds, and everybody falls off their pedestal every once and awhile.

Sorry Brad, can't hear you from up on my pedestal. 

To counter, at least I am alone on my bike when I do bad things. I would never risk the life of a passenger, especially one that I loved, by doing bad things two-up.   

There's no need to counter Dave. Brad's a good rider, age is not always directly proportional with riding skill levels... I've ridden behind Brad and Hillary for a brief section, and at least there, he didn't do anything that I wouldn't do if my wife was riding with me. His bike though needs a tune-up, or new engine, or something, it pollutes like crazy 

As far as speeding goes, it's not the speed that counts, it's whether one is prepared or not to handle that speed. However, this is a thread about paying respects to people who lost their lives, so I'll take Brad's advice seriously and shut-up ...

[Marc]

Sorry to hear about your crash Johnny. I hope you can get it behind you soon. Keep us posted on what you're thinking of replacing the bike with.

[Hayabuser]

Sorry to hear about your crash Johnny. I hope you can get it behind you soon. Keep us posted on what you're thinking of replacing the bike with.

That's where Johnny likes it the best! 

[menglor]

Rider and passenger down last night: http://www.ottawacitizen.com/news/died+front+cycle+crash+witness+says/3036045/story.html

I wondered what the hell all the sirens on carling were about last night. Now I know  .

RIP to the cyclist and to both rider and passenger, a speedy recovery.

All things asside like blame and what not.  I cant imagine what must of been going through the Bikers mind when you have a body hitting you head on.

I know we have all had bad experiences with bee's hornets and or butterflies.  having something that big hit you must be quite the THump.


With regards to the speed issue,  its easy to give the biker a pass or fail on speeding without much thinking.  I have been pulled over for going through the Greenback and fallowfield intersection for what appeared like I was speeding. 

I know I was doing 73 when I went through the intersection, and the cop was at the light stoped so when the light hit green I flew past him, but its a Clearly labeled 80k zone. he pulled me over and explained that I was moving in excess of 90, when I know I wasnt.

Doing Stunts while crossing a Major roadway is just plain stupid.  even if the guy was doing 50kph, and the bike drove into the intersection, the biker would likely not have the reaction time needed.

And the following point "speed alone isn't a factor in assigning fault. " is the single most important thing to remember from this accident.

If your doing 50kph or 500kph, if you suddenly show up in front of a moving vehicle, your going to loose and be punted like a football, the laws of Inertia hold true.


I do find it somewhat frustrating that The story seems to be edited as the day goes along, so its hard to tell who to believe, the article clearly say that "girlfriend said he was doing tricks while crossing Carling" and now it says

"Freeman was riding his BMX bike on Carling Avenue when a westbound motorcycle drove “really fast and hit him,” Wilson said. “I look away for five seconds and he’s gone.”

[judd]

I used to live near that section of road and traffic (bikes, cars, everything) regularly do 100+ km/h along it.   It's a terrible place to speed because of pedestrians and so many side roads.  It's an equally terrible place to be doing tricks on your bike after dark with no lights or reflectors.  I hope that the media doesn't take the easy road by demonizing the motorcyclist (who am I kidding?)

[GT Pilot]

The mother is in hospital with serious injuries as she piled into the car and her husband's bike.


http://www.torontosun.com/news/canada/2010/06/28/14548896.html

[suzukinduced]

The mother is in hospital with serious injuries as she piled into the car and her husband's bike.


http://www.torontosun.com/news/canada/2010/06/28/14548896.html

saw this in the riders down section.

f*** peta. birds are not worth more then people.

[Ninja Johnny]

"Quebec law prohibits stopping a vehicle on a highway."
.... well duh. Isn't it the law everywhere, not to mention common sense?

RIP to the father and daughter. I'd hate to face what the mother is/will go through for the rest of her life.

[smokey]

While I really really am sorry this happened, it begs the question on how close they were to the car, I know the driver has been charged but you have to ask the question as to how close the bikes were at the time. Not trying to shift the blame or start anything, but you have to admit, they must have been pretty close to not be able to react in time. I was coming back on my bike from Peterborough and had a family of ducks in the middle of the road, the most scary part was the tractor trailer coming at me that was actually going to swerve, luckily onto the shoulder side, but it make one think. Ducks are cute, but they are a dime a dozen, not worth the life of human for sure.

[ljpm]

While I really really am sorry this happened, it begs the question on how close they were to the car, I know the driver has been charged but you have to ask the question as to how close the bikes were at the time.

They way I read it, the woman was stopped. She is being charged with stopping not slowing down. If she was stopped then they couldn't have been following to close. There are plenty of reasons why they may not have seen the car. There could be a hill or curve. The pictures seems to show two lanes with very little in the way of a left hand shoulder; maybe they pull out to pass a truck and couldn't get back into the right lane.

[Dirty]

I thought it was the person who does the rear ending who is charged regardless of what lead up to it. Remember the fatal OC Transpo accident on the eastbound 174? The car was stopped in the bus lane and the OC driver was charged although he was found not guilty.

A few weeks after that incident I was following a car (on the same stretch of road but other direction) which rear ended a parked car on the highway. I was able to stop 1 foot short of the carnage. The person who had broken down on the highway didn't want to pull off to the bus lane because of what had happened earlier so they stayed on the highway and got smashed anyway.

[Cos]

I too was under the impression that the person doing the rear ending is at fault. How can be determined whether a car was stopped, or very slowly moving?

Regardless, this brings to the front that more focus, and probably skills in some cases, are needed when riding a bike. Some things are unavoidable, but this incident didn't sound like one.

It still amazes me how lightly some people take riding, with that kind of it-won't-happen-to-me attitude.

It's going to be tough for that lady, if she survives...

[Ninja Johnny]

I thoght about how fast the father was going too, but when I crashed in may, I was doing 40 and was 2 seconds behind the car in front of me. I've increased my following time up to 3-4 seconds.

[RickT]

Just a couple thoughts.

1) Just because the car driver is being charged, doesn't mean they are at fault for the accident.  Not knowing Quebec laws it would seem that they are being given a ticket for stopping on a highway.  The bike riders (rip) are most likely still at fault for the accident as they ran into the car.

2) Unless it's a blind curve, I find it hard to think that any vehicle traveling down a road can't stop in time for a stopped vehicle in the road.  I'm guessing speed or not paying attention possibly played a part in the accident.

3) And while I'm with you, a ducks life isn't that important compared to  your own, I think it's human nature to try and avoid running over any living creature in the road.

[Rhetorik]

I've got my bike back on the road finally after my accident last month.

[Hayabuser]

I've got my bike back on the road finally after my accident last month.

And they say once you go black, you never go back. 

[karl_1052]

The two tone does not look too bad.

[Rhetorik]

The two tone does not look too bad.

I like it quite a bit (I'd originally wanted a green bike anyhow) - with some green rimstripes it'll look even better, and I hope to have the lowers painted in a gloss black over the winter. I think that will look quite sharp.

Now just to keep the shiny side up!

[menglor]

its still green though!

[P57]

Not an Ottawa rider, but he's a fellow Hawker. For all those who use UNI pods, take note.

Here is his completed build dated August 9, 2010. The last quote shows how it sits today.

so yeah... got registration and insurance today...took the bike out for a 2 mile test ride tonight and turns out that UNI pod filter oil is like napalm, and my bike was running so rich it backfired at the carbs and burst into flames while I was riding it...

yeah... the bike that i finished building yesterday...now sits charred in my driveway.

[1125R]

Biker fatally injured in crash with cop car

http://www.torontosun.com/news/torontoandgta/2010/09/04/15247266.html

There has to be more to this story to crash into a stationary vehicle...

Certainly is odd running into a parked police car,  which has blocked a road way due to another accident, which was being investigated,

[bir4]

Biker fatally injured in crash with cop car

http://www.torontosun.com/news/torontoandgta/2010/09/04/15247266.html

But it appears the fatality had little to do with police.

They are quick to make the accusation, then they say:

SIU investigator Rob Waters said, explaining it was too early to say why the biker was unable to avoid ramming the cruiser

I would hope the police at least had there lights on if there were blocking the intersection.

[1125R]

Would hope so as well. The new roof racks are better front to rear but im not very impressed with the side profile.

[MC Copper]

The incident in Toronto will be interesting enough...I'm hoping they have intersection cameras at that location that can clear a few things up for both the police officer's vehicle as well as the rider's approach to the intersection.

You'd really be amazed at the number of close calls involving stopped police vehicles...with the lights on...in the middle of what usually seems like a clearly visible area with other lane options available.

The year before last...in the evening...on Innes Rd. just east of Page. Rd...(couldn't have a wider...clearer sightline while approaching my car) I was finishing a traffic stop...walked back to my drivers' side door...opened it, sat down...closed the door...pulled my seatbelt across my body and "Smmmmmmmaaaaackkk!" an approaching vehicle snapped my side-view mirror right off my door.  It literally happened within 2-3 seconds of my closing the door...otherwise that would have been me standing beside my car.

Lights on...pulled to the right curb side...lots of room to change lanes...no other traffic at all...well lit area...and...after stopping the violating driver...he stated that he "didn't see the police car"...

So...it can happen at any time...distracted or disoriented driving...can be deadly.

 

(Not knowing what the case was in Toronto...but, as mentioned, hopefully either a witness or some sort of intersection camera will have captured the approach of the mc as well as the positioning/visibility of the police car).

mc.

[blackkat]

What's the penalty for not slowing down or changing lanes when an emergency vehicle is stopped on the side of the road with it's light flashing?? and how close does it have to be before the officer will go after them (in general) because I have seen many people not slow down or not change lanes when there is no reason that they couldn't have done so and the officer just gives them a quick glance and go back to what he was doing.... is it not worth the time or hassle to go get them??

[MC Copper]

I don't have the exact amount with me right now...but it's in the $300-400 range.  What often happens is that an officer is doing something solo...and can't break away from the business at hand to pull the offending vehicle over.  Often, all we have...if we even see it is a chance to take a visual...and if we've got a chance to finish off our business with another motorist...and then catch up...we will.  If you're lucky enough to have another officer in the immediate area...sometimes you can describe the vehicle...and they can make the traffic stop.

The last one I was able to charge...was exactly that...I was on the Queensway...just finished with another motorist...had the "fly by" occur...and was luckily able to catch up to the vehicle by the next off-ramp.

It's just a nice charge to have at our disposal for the most deserving of motorists who seem to have little to no regard for our safety.  We don't like going to police funerals for something so unnecessary...so avoidable...the legislation was long overdue...not just for police...but for all emergency personnel.

Traffic "accidents" are the leading cause of deaths for police officers...the whole education and enforcement campaign around this has been nothing but positive in my opinion...similar to the speed zone efforts we make for construction workers, it's a tough job, and it's nice to know that those who put your life at risk are potentially facing a specific penalty for their actions.

 

mc.

[blackkat]

Good to hear that it's actually enforced and that law should have been made a long time ago!!

[ninjastrat]

Best wishes for his speedy recovery.

To all riders who continue to ride in T-shirts and basically no gear exc helmet and maybe boots, take note of his injuries. ATGATT.

[ak85lp]

Best wishes for his speedy recovery.

To all riders who continue to ride in T-shirts and basically no gear exc helmet and maybe boots, take note of his injuries. ATGATT.

+1 on that. Note the serious abrasions noted in the story. Wonder what gear he did have if any?

[blackkat]

Not the proper gear thats for sure!

[fjrpierre]

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The year before last...in the evening...on Innes Rd. just east of Page. Rd...(couldn't have a wider...clearer sightline while approaching my car) I was finishing a traffic stop...walked back to my drivers' side door...opened it, sat down...closed the door...pulled my seatbelt across my body and "Smmmmmmmaaaaackkk!" an approaching vehicle snapped my side-view mirror right off my door.  It literally happened within 2-3 seconds of my closing the door...otherwise that would have been me standing beside my car.............

mc.

I think there is a lot of the "you go where you look" problem with cars on the side of the road. Drivers can unconsciously fixate on hazards on the side of the road, especially if they have lights blazing (snowplows, police, tow trucks, etc). The rule to MOVE OVER should help counteract this tendency.

[Rainman]

Was in to see Don Chow over the weekend.  Things are looking better.  His family greatly appreciates all the well wishes.

R

[bir4]

saw one on the way in this morning, some sort of maroon touring bike. Carling westboud at the ramp from the 417 near Kirkwood.  There was a work truck there with his orange strobes on and had set some cones up and was assisting the rider who was lying on the ground..  One of the hard bags broke off and was a few meteres down the road from the bike, and the bike was facing the wrong direction.  Rider looked in pain, but obviously alert.  Hope he's ok.

Yeah it was this story:

http://www.ottawasun.com/news/ottawa/2010/09/16/15369151.html

Is that you?

[ak85lp]

saw one on the way in this morning, some sort of maroon touring bike. Carling westboud at the ramp from the 417 near Kirkwood.  There was a work truck there with his orange strobes on and had set some cones up and was assisting the rider who was lying on the ground..  One of the hard bags broke off and was a few meteres down the road from the bike, and the bike was facing the wrong direction.  Rider looked in pain, but obviously alert.  Hope he's ok.

Yeah it was this story:

http://www.ottawasun.com/news/ottawa/2010/09/16/15369151.html

Is that you?

No thank goodness. My buddy has the same bike and he emailed this to me as his daughter thought it was him. It's not an ST1100 but can't quite tell what kind of bike it is.

[mechanix]

A few months back I was parked waiting for my girlfriend to meet up with me.  I watched as she started braking to make a right hand turn, and couldn't believe my eyes when her front tire hit the stop line and tucked...  she went down hard.  I was horrified.  Thankfully she wears full gear and by the time I ran over to her she was back on her feet.  She was shaken and her gear was ripped up, but when she started crying because her bike was mangled I knew she was okay.  I have to say that was one of the worst things I have had to witness; a loved one going down hard like that.  Hopefully I'll never have to see that sort of thing again. 

Oh yes, my main point here is this;  why the hell is road paint so damn slippery?  The road was slightly wet but it wasn't raining at that point.  Can't they use a paint with texture that isn't like ice when wet?   

[ljpm]

Yeah it was this story:

http://www.ottawasun.com/news/ottawa/2010/09/16/15369151.html

Was it you?  That looks like the bike in your avatar.

[Ninja Johnny]

Oh yes, my main point here is this;  why the hell is road paint so damn slippery?  The road was slightly wet but it wasn't raining at that point.  Can't they use a paint with texture that isn't like ice when wet?   

I have the same concern. Everytime I pull out of my sub-division onto Dunrobin Rd., I ride over the yellow line. If I lean a little bit, the back tire breaks loose.
Same thing with the directional arrows in a multi-lane off ramp. You're trying to slow and lean for the curve, but if you run over one of these things, it ain't good.

[Cos]

Oh yes, my main point here is this;  why the hell is road paint so damn slippery?  The road was slightly wet but it wasn't raining at that point.  Can't they use a paint with texture that isn't like ice when wet?   

I have the same concern. Everytime I pull out of my sub-division onto Dunrobin Rd., I ride over the yellow line. If I lean a little bit, the back tire breaks loose.

stop breaking the law and you'll be fine...

the worst painted lines must be the ones on Deal's gap, I was able to feel the height difference, and those are indeed slick when wet. I guess the slicker the paint, the longer it lasts, who cares about those going over it...

[FRFMBANDIT]

Man that's some bullshit I'm pleased your okay and I hope things go smoothly for you in the aftermath. Sound of sport bikes dropping is a horrible sound. You going to try to get back riding asap or next season?

[CuriousG]

I talked to him by text and he was sounding not too bad. Hope you're ok Scott, heal up fast and let us know if you need anything.

[Lostboy]

Thanks guys and Special thanks to Terry Dennis and Charles for helping me and my bike.
Stupid car turned left right in front of me put both brakes on but the rear just lifted as it was locking and going sideways.... Luckly i was only going 40 kmh went flying but im okay only my leg has bit of road rash and my hand is sprained or something as for my bike the whole left side needs replacing... oh well. pictures to follow!  my poor baby never dropped until today

[Bike-A-Holic]

Glad to hear you're OK and your injuries aren't too serious...
You're bike can be repaired or replaced.  Did the vehicle stop? I hope the police were called and an investigation completed if you went in an ambulance. 

Take care of yourself and heal quickly...

[Lostboy]

Glad to hear you're OK and your injuries aren't too serious...
You're bike can be repaired or replaced.  Did the vehicle stop? I hope the police were called and an investigation completed if you went in an ambulance. 

Take care of yourself and heal quickly...

yeah there were two cops a firetruck and a ambulance within minutes and yes everything will be replaced, he did stop and is fully at fault
Thanks

[Firlotte]

Glad you're okay, take heart... you didn't "drop" the bike, you were victimized by a jerk in a cage... remember meat proteins are great for helping the human body heal up!

The offer of a free baseball batting still stands too. I'm a real "swing for the fences" kinda guy.

[perthcbr1k]

Sorry to hear that... glad your ok with no serious injuries. Hopefully the cagers insurance will pay for some nice shiny new parts for the bike.

Hope you heal up quickly!

[Maverick]

Hey Scott, glad you are OK man!

[gammaguy21]

Sorry to hear about your accident, good to hear your ok.

[suffocated]

Hey Scott, glad to hear you're okay and without serious injuries. When I saw your text I was hoping you were kidding... But alas. 
+1 to blackkat, Big Yellow, and uberchuckie.... they are good peoples. 

[FRFMBANDIT]

I hate hearing about these downs!

Hope you get back on her asap.

Glad you're okay...

Ugh the sound of a bike going down.

Good job on getting checked out too just in case

[SimZuki]

Sorry to hear about your accident Scott. Glad to hear that you are ok.

[NinjaGal]

Oh my!  Glad to hear you're ok Scott!  I hope you're up and at it again real soon!

[patootie]

Hey Scott, glad to hear you're okay and without serious injuries. When I saw your text I was hoping you were kidding... But alas. 
+1 to blackkat, Big Yellow, and uberchuckie.... they are good peoples. 

They are AWEsome peoples   

[karl_1052]

Now you can step up to a real womans bike and get a Ninja 250

[johnboy]

sorry to hear this news but your ok thats the main thing

[suzukinduced]

Now you can step up to a real womans bike and get a Ninja 250

  Horsepower monster that thing.

[sidejam]

Sorry to hear about what happened.
But, glad to hear you're ok!

[Ostro]

Welcome to the fat hand club Scott. Heal up soon.

[MC Copper]

...there are very few "accidents"happening out there...unfortunately there are more than enough "dangerous, inconsiderate and generally unsafe" driving choices being made across town each and every day.

Glad to hear you're going to be alright.

 

mc.